Going through details and different datasheets/documents, it seems feasible to use two Ethernet interfaces.
But, confusion arise when I checked Toradex pinout designer tool, there is one pin conflicts using two ethernet interfaces on Apalis iMX8 QuadMax module.
I looked at the interface and try designing Ethernet PHY (using AR8031 or KSZ9131), the conflicting pins are optional output pins and could work without it.
Also, when I checked Apalis datasheet (Section 5.3; Page 29), mentions using second ethernet interface using external PHY.
But also states that it is not part of standard Apalis module.
Could you confirm its feasible to use two Ethernet interfaces on Apalis module?
One through available ethernet interface and another through RGMII with PHY.
The Ethernet MAC Interface is only supporting 1.8 to 2.5 volts as specified from now on. All the IMX.8 modules that final production ones will only be specified for 1.8 or 2.5.
So your interface on the Ethernet side needs to be not 3.3 volts if you want to use Gbit ethernet. We recommend 1.8 volts.
The secondary Ethernet on the Apalis IMX8 (MAC) is can be switched to 1.8volt or 2.5volt via the device tree. The port of the IMX8 will be switched to 1.8volt.
The MDC and MDIO signal remains at 3.3 volts on the iMX8 side.
So you need level shifting from 3.3 to 1.8 of the Switch since you need to operate the switch at 1.8volt.
The reset should also be shifted to 1.8 volts.
The 22 ohms resistor R27 in the clock line RGMII_REF_CLK should be left away or best up there a 0-ohm resistor
the RGMI1 Interface need also 1.8 Volt pull-ups.
Here a little ref. Schematic with an ethernet PHY.
Hello,
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Hello @shrikrishnabd
Unfortunately we cannot provide the Altium schematics of our modules, as this is part of our IP.
For the carrier board design call, @matthias.tx will get back to you next week
Hi Toradex team,
In imx8 SOM,
Shall we get schematic connection between imx8 SoC and KSZ9131 for primary ethernet ETH1_MDIx to get clarity on ball name and ball function of below table?
in the datasheet of the Apalis IMX8 you can find this. And you can see the ball names.
keep in mind that the RGMII interface on the IMX8 is only guaranteed to work with the 1.8 o 2.5 volt setting of the port.
I can send you a sample schematic if you send a ticket to our support email.
I did not get an answer from you to my last question.
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